Reed family lore from Sallie Greer Reed
1951 Letter from Sallie Greer Reed
The following letter was written by Sallie (Greer) Reed to her
granddaughter Virginia Joan (Reed) Vineyard and transcribed by Tony
D'Agostino (the husband of Virginia's niece Tammi) as written:
Meridian, Texas
Feb. 27, 1951
Dear Virginia,
I received you nice rather long letter, that is, it is some
longer than girls usually write these days, but very welcome.
Was glad to hear from you again, & I have been trying to write
the little I know about your Reed ancestors for you.
I write so very badly, & unless I write slowly, it is most
impossible to read, so I have spent some time on the job.
I have not mentioned my own people, the Greers nor the Howards.
My mother was Mintie Howard, daughter of Phillip & Sarah Howard,
& she had two sisters, one older and one younger than she, but no
brother. [transciber's note: Eugenia Howard was two years older than
Mintie and Susan Howard was three years younger]
I wrote all I could remember about both families two years ago
for Earl White, my nephew here, who said he would typewrite copies for
all my children, but I don't think he has done so.
I don't think I will try to write that again, writing is getting
too hard for me, but I will get Earl to let me use his
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typewriter, & make a copy for your father, then you can get a copy
from him, if you care for it.
My Greer grandparents were both born in Virginia, about 30 miles
apart, but in adjoining counties & did not meet till grandma was 16
years old; & then in a different state.
She was born Nancy Roberts, August 4, 1805, in Fairfax Co. near
Fairfax Courthouse, & her mother died when she was a baby: she had one
brother, no sister, & her father never married again.
Her father and grandfather Roberts, who lived together, moved to
north Georgia soon after her mother died & they, particularly her
grandfather, were her school teachers. There were no schools near.
I don't know in which Co. grandpa Greer was born, only it joined
Fairfax.
He died ten years before I was born. [transcriber's note: Sally
Greer was born on June 4, 1860]
They lived in Ga. & Tennesee, first one, & then the other till
1837, when they came to Texas: My father was seven years old then, &
he was their fourth child, & if I don't stop I'll never get done.
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Penelope Rebecka Black, your great grandmother Reed, was born in
Hempstead co. Ark. Sept. 5, 1812 of strictly Irish parentage; both
father & mother were born in Ireland.
Her mother's name was Hogg, her father, of course, was named
Black.
I do not know the given name of either.
She had asthma from middle age, & three of her 8 girls had it: I
don't think either of her 5 sons had it.
Her youngest girl, younger than your grandfather, died at about 6
months of age: the next youngest, just older than your grandfather,
was about 18 years old when she died.
The oldest daughter, Helen, had, I think, three little children
when she died. She lived & died in Ark. Her name was Cornish. The
next daughter was named Jane & she married William Smith, had three
boys & 4 girls: the youngest girl died in infancy: the oldest girl
lived to about 40 & left 5 children, 3 girls & 2 boys. She died from
measles.
This was my sister-in-law & family I was best accuanted with, &
loved all of them dearly, like I did my own folks.
Grandma Reed [transcriber's note: i.e. Penelope Black] was 74
when she died in 1886: Aunt Jane was 75 at her death.
Robert Reed, the oldest son came next & he spent nearly all his
life in Ark., he left a family of ten children, three sons & seven
girls. They lived in Hope, Ark. those I know about & are all rather
well to do.
Aunt Jane's children are all dead but the youngest son, William,
& the young
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girl who grew up, Beatrice: they live together in Aspermont, Texas.
Your grandfather [transcriber's note: i.e. James Harvey Reed]
took care of his father & mother & made a home for them from 1870,
when he was 18 years old.
His two brother's next older than him married that year & left
him in charge.
His mother [transcriber's note: i.e. Penelope Black] lived 16
years & his father [transcriber's note: i.e. Watson Reed] a little
more than 20 years.
Grandpa & grandma Reed were married in Hempstead co. Ark. in
1828, & lived there as long as his mother lived: she lived to be
nearly 100, so I have heard him say.
Grandma & Grandpa Black also lived to be nearly a hundred & died
of "galloping consumption", they used to call it "Hasty consumption or
quick consumption", I have heard it called, too.
Anyway people who have it don't last long.
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Grandpa Reed [transcriber's note: i.e. Watson Reed] came to Texas
in 1850 or 1851 & lived in Brazos co., I think not more than two
years. James Harvey Reed, his youngest son was born March 13, 1852 on
the bank of the Brazos River.
This was his only Texas born child.
They moved to Nacatosh Parish in Louisiana in the fall of 1852 &
lived there till late in 1863 or early in 1864: sometime that winter
he came back to Texas. [transcriber's note: Watson Reed and his family
are residing in Gordon, Claiborne Co., LA in 1860 census]
Then he lived in Brazos co. Freestone co. then in Limestone co.
I don't know how long in either, but up to 1876.
Aunt Jane had always lived near her father & mother, even while
Bill Smith lived.
He died about 1870, & Aunt Jane moved when her father did: he
helped her with her family: her oldest son only about 17 & while he
was an extra good boy, he was too young to be expected to manage a
large family & make a living for them.
He had a brother two years younger & they were unusually good
boys, good workers & always willing to do all they could to help their
mother & make life as pleasant for the family as they could.
In 1876 the Smith boys, Jerry & Watson, moved to Eastland co.
Texas, with their cattle.
More than 100 head & James Reed, their uncle, brought his & his
father's cattle too.
The two families together had about 300 head of cattle & horses.
Grandpa & grandma Reed moved to Eastland in the summer of 1877;
Jim Reed made & gathered a crop in Limestone co. that year, then moved
to Eastland that fall, where he lived till 1886.
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Grandfather, Watson Reed, your great grandfather, was born in
Missouri, Saint Gennevive, Mo. Nov. 14, 1806.
He was strictly English stock in origin. His ancestors came to
Jamestown, Va. in very early times & I am pretty sure there were
several brothers.
If I am not mistaken, he told me there were seven Reed brothers
who came to Virginia in early Collonial days.
His own particular great grandfather was the oldest of these
boys, & was married to an English girl before he came.
They had not been in America long when they were notified that
they were heirs to a considerable estate in England.
I don't know if it was their parents or some other ancestor from
whom the estate came, however they thought it needful some one of them
go to England to dispose of the property & bring the money to them.
This oldest brother, our ancestor, was chosen for the duty & he
took passage on a ship that never returned.
No one who sailed on that ship was heard of for seven years; then
grandfather came back to Virginia to find his wife had married a man
named Watson & they had a son too. This man, Watson provedd to be a
really good honest man, & he & our ancestor talked the situation over
& decided to let the woman choose which man she preferred to live
with, either way she was to keep both boys. Of course she chose Reed.
The grandfather I knew did not know what happened to his ancestor
during those 7 years, but I think I know.
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Knowing as much of history as I do, I think that ship was
captured by pirates from the Barbary states.
Those who were not killed in the fight or murdered outright, were
sold into slavery, & grandfather Reed was one of these, & managed to
escape after so many years.
If you can find any straight to his you can beat me. I have just
made a mess of the whole thing.
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I knew only three of grandpa Reed's sons & three of the
daughters.
Aunt Jane Smith, second oldest girl, and Aunt Josephine Smith, &
aunt Mira.
Aunt Jane & Aunt Joe both married Smiths but their husbands were
no kin.
Aunt Joe raised 4 girls & one boy.
Aunt Mira never had a child.
She did not marry young, & her husband did not live a year. She
never married again: her name was Turner.
Watson Reed, grandpa's middle son was born on his father's
birthday & was nearly 80 years old when he died of heart failure.
Aunt Joe was 95, Aunt Mira 79 & your grandfather, my husband,
most 96, so you see we are rather long lifed bunch.
Four of the daughters died before I knew the family, & the second
son, Augustus died in 1879 & left three children, 2 girls & a boy: the
oldest son died in 1884 in Ark.
I never saw him or any of his family but his second daughter,
Zenobia Reed.
She came to the Fat Stock Show at Ft. Worth with her brother Sid,
about ten year ago, & came to Carbon [transcriber's note: Carbon is in
Eastland county] & hunted us up: she made a short call.
Zenobia & Sid & the rest of Uncle Robert's family who are living
still live Hope, Ark. I had a Christmas card from Zenobia last Dec.
Now, I have done my best. I hope you appreciate what a job it
was for such an old woman.
I'd love to see Veronica Jo & that man of yours, as well as
yourself.
your loving grandmother Sallie G. R.
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The following document may have been written by Sallie (Greer) Reed.
It was transcribed by Tony D'Agostino (the husband of Sallie's great
granddaughter Tammi) as written:
The original Reeds came from England and settled in Virginia. I
am sure they were among the early colonists and that the ancestor of
our branch of the family was married when he came, or maybe married
the daughter of an immigrant on the way, or soon after he arrived in
America. However he was a married man, with a wife and one son when
his history started to be important enough for his descendants to
remember about it.
For some, to him, very important business reason he had to return
to England. He sailed away on a ship that was lost and left the wife
and little son in Virginia to await his return.
Seven years later he came back to Virginia, the only person who
sailed on that ship that did
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ever return to their knowledge and his wife had given him up for lost
and had married a man named Watson, and she had a son by Watson when
Grandfather Reed made his appearance.
The two men talked the situation over and agreed to leave both
children with Mother Reed and let her choose which husband she
preferred: the other to leave that part of the country and stay away.
She chose her first love and friend Watson departed never to be heard
from again by them.
Now my opinion is this story makes it easy for anyone who has any
money to spend on geneologies to have our branch of the Reed family
traced from there to now or even generations later if need be. Father
Reed was named Watson Reed. his fa-
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ther was named Robert Reed. Robert Reed had two sons, Robert and
Watson and three daughters, Epsy who married a man named Ainsworth,
Rachel who married Charlie Smith, and Nellie who married a man named
Foster. All of them had families, but I do not know their names.
I spose you know about uncle Bob Reed's family. They all lived
in Arkansas as far as we know. He had one son, Watson and four or
more daughters.
Watson Reed had 13 children. Helen who married a man named
Cornish, Jane who married William Smith, a brother of her uncle
Charlie Smith, and Robert your wife's grandfather, Johnathan Augustus,
then Mary who married John Cole, Watson Reed, and Josephine who
married
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Sam Smith. John Reed and Sallie who married a man named Brewer or
Brower, and Elmira who married a man named Noah Turner and Penelope
who died young and single and James Harvey, the only one left alive
now and Zenobia who died in infancy. All the older children were born
in Arkansas. James Harvey was born in Texas 1852. Zenobia was born
in La. and died there before she was a year old.
Grandfather Robert Reed moved from Virginia, one or more brothers
with him to St. Genevieve, Missouri sometime prior to 1806 because
Watson Reed was born in that place November 14, 1806, and before he
was grown his father moved to Hempstead co. Arkansas, where his father
continued to live the rest of his life.
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The year Watson Reed was 24, in 1830, (I do not know month nor
day of the month) he was married to Penelope Rebeca Black by a justice
of the peace named Moss in Hempstead co. Arkansas.
Mother Reed's father was named Johnathan Augustus Black, her
mother was a Miss Hogg, given name forgotten, if we ever knew what it
was. Penelope R. Reed (nee, Penelope R. Black was an only girl with
three brothers, James Harvey, Johnathan Augustus & William.
We have no idea what part of Ireland the Blacks or Hoggs came
from, I think very likely they were neighbors and friends in the old
country, and came together to the new world, and continued to be
neighbors.
At least we know both were "Irish as Pat's pig".
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Watson Reed moved from Ark. to Texas in 1851, and rented land in
Brazos Co. where he made a crop in 1852. In the winter of 1852 he
moved to Naccatush Parrish where be bought a saw mill, a grist mill
and a cotton gin, and later bought land near Gordonville where his son
Johnathan Augustus, with the negro slaves cleared up and put in
cultivation quite a plantation.
Later, Father Reed sold his mill and gin business and moved to
Gordonville where he became a dealer in dry goods and general
merchandise and here the Civil War found him and his family.
When war was declared "Gus", as he was known to his family,
volunteered and entered Lee's army in Virginia. Watson and John, the
other two sons joined the southern army and were in the seige
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of Vicksburg, parolled and sent home after Vicksburg fell.
Watson became tired of being hustled about to report here and
yonder so much, father Reed like so many slave owners, sold his
plantation for Confederate paper money and refuged to Texas to hold
his slaves: so Watson went to Brownsville and reentered the
Confederate army which fought a battle there after Lee's surrender.
Now this is all I can tell you about our branch of the Reed
family.
You see the explanation of how the Watson name came into the Reed
family, and I argue that any Reed family who does not have a Watson
Reed among his own immediate family, or who does not know of a
relative of that name is two distant to con-
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sider as kinfolk. Don't you.
Nearly every family of father Reed's own children have a Watson,
and he said his father's family claimed they all honored the name. So
you see it is a bit item in the history.
Father Reed's son Watson was born on his father's birthday, and
he had one sone named Emmett Watson and Emmett has a son named Watson,
so they are following the family Tradition.
One reason I am sure the first Reeds in America were colonists,
Grandfather Reed said his grandmother Reed killed a British spy in her
own door yard with a pine knot. The soldier was hidden in a fig bush
to watch if any of her men folk came home from the Continental Army
for the night and she got him.
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